tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5576585332526677688.post1965968738702346317..comments2024-03-29T15:13:35.193+02:00Comments on Kotzk Blog: 297) WHY BLACK HATS?Rabbi Gavin Michalhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/14410541880380752479noreply@blogger.comBlogger6125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5576585332526677688.post-446822436088518342020-10-13T09:15:52.797+02:002020-10-13T09:15:52.797+02:00I thought you were talking about davening wear. No...I thought you were talking about davening wear. Not what you walk with. Very few wear hats while walking. Think it's more a convenience than halacha.Yybturnerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12475392082466169051noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5576585332526677688.post-47673456318108322782020-10-13T02:30:10.493+02:002020-10-13T02:30:10.493+02:00I have a vague memory of that reference to kishekt...I have a vague memory of that reference to kishektelach, but I can't find it right now. It might be related to the Mishna Brura (91:12) that discusses the contemporary dress standards of gentlemen of that century. But, of course, that's only a reference point for determining the way they should dress for davening rather than an objective standard for outside wear.<br />ובזמנינו צריך להשים בעת התפלה כובע בראשו כדרך שהולך ברחוב ולא בכובע הקטן שתחת הכובע כי אין דרך לעמוד כן לפני אנשים חשוביםBoruch Clintonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03864323537094915871noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5576585332526677688.post-37863385991261699662020-10-12T20:21:44.966+02:002020-10-12T20:21:44.966+02:00Very surprised you didn't bring the mishna ber...Very surprised you didn't bring the mishna berura which talks about everyone wearing kishketelach, that you don't go out without wearing something. Think that's where the "minhag" came from. Yybturnerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12475392082466169051noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5576585332526677688.post-38576396512452771312020-10-12T19:31:48.685+02:002020-10-12T19:31:48.685+02:00MMAA500: good point.
EA. In addition, this is an i...MMAA500: good point.<br />EA. In addition, this is an interesting source:<br />In #56 of שו"ת מלמד להועיל, R' Hoffmann recalls his first day teaching in R' Hirsch's school in Frankfurt. When he went to greet R' Hirsch, he was told to remove his hat. Apparently the custom was to never stand before someone of higher status than you with your head covered. R' Hirsch was worried that other teachers might see R' Hoffmann with his hat and conclude that he was being rebellious. <br />R' Hoffmann used that as a proof that issues of חוקות הגוי (as he characterized head coverings for Jews) could be ignored to avoid conflict.<br />By the way, I only know about that teshuva because a recent edition tried to censor it. :)Boruch Clintonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03864323537094915871noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5576585332526677688.post-47778263094044279862020-10-12T07:56:22.990+02:002020-10-12T07:56:22.990+02:00Regarding the GRA's view on head covers, the M...Regarding the GRA's view on head covers, the Maharshal in his Shut (S. 72) criticizes those that are overly strict regarding head covers. Rabbi Binyamin Shlomo Hamburger in some of his lectures has mentioned that in Germany, until the late 19th century, it was the minhag for Jewish men to cover their heads, whereas in Eastern Europe it was less common. He also mentioned that at least for praying, it was the minhag to have two head covers - primarily the Tallis over the head cover and at later times by wearing two head covers - Yarmulke and hat or yarmulke and Tallis.EAhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04131095541228866419noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5576585332526677688.post-12036252375439682772020-10-11T22:05:16.648+02:002020-10-11T22:05:16.648+02:00I don't know much about the custom to wear suc...I don't know much about the custom to wear such outfits, especially if one is in Israel, to only wear a European like black and white suit seems out of place. Why can't people wear modest, yet simple fashion? Muslims of every degree of religious observance, reserve traditional clothing for only prayers or some religious event. These hats and suits cost hundreds of dollars, and I have heard some people from the non-Jewish world saying that when they see Jews wearing Yeshivas suits, it "odd". The reason they might think this way is that the stereotypical image of "religious people" is modest and bare clothing, not $600-1000 suits. MMAA500https://www.blogger.com/profile/08087957742774675612noreply@blogger.com